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Obama Admin. asks applicants whether they own guns

Posted by David Hardy · 13 November 2008 03:36 PM

As noted at the Volokh Conspiracy, question 59 on the questionaire that applicants for appoint fill out reads:

"Do you or any members of your immediate family own a gun? If so, provide complete ownership and registration information. Has the registration ever lapsed? Please also describe how and by whom it is used and whether it has been the cause of any personal injuries or property damage."

It's traditional to ask at least some questions, meant to guard against appointing someone with a background you don't know about. But as a friend pointed out when I worked in DC, it's not wise to ask for written answers. If the applicant has something embarrassing in their past, they sure as heck are not going to want to write it down and sign it! I don't know if transition committees are subject to the various federal records acts (meaning documents have to be saved, and will be available to the Administration after this one). But given all the DC backstabbing *within* an administration, who wants to pass around paperwork revealing every potentially embarrassing fact of their life?

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There are only 2 types that work for Obama:

1) Thugs, who have so much unregistered that they'd never tell; and

2) A bunch of wimpy, candy-arsed, tree-hugging, certified and certifiable hoplophobes, either of the hairy, ugly woman type, or of the girly-man type. They don't own guns, probably would need new underwear if they were shown one in person.

Posted by: A Texan at November 13, 2008 03:57 PM

It's a Chicago-style indimidating question.
Even In CA there's no requirement for 'ownership and registration information' - all that stuff has already been processed and passed by the instant background check.
Is he also going to force them to wait 10-days before acknowledging their job application? Is he going to run instant background checks on everybody in his Administration?

Posted by: DirtCrashr at November 13, 2008 05:50 PM

What struck me, as very funny is the implication from the question that they are asking if you own A or ONE gun. Nobody I know owns just ONE gun. They sure would freak if my friends applied and they had to disclose all they guns they own.

Posted by: Tim at November 13, 2008 06:39 PM

I guess, taking the time to apply for a position as director of ATFE would be a waste?

Posted by: Chuck at November 13, 2008 06:42 PM

All this from a guy who wouldn't even release his birth certificate? HAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: emdfl at November 13, 2008 06:57 PM

CAN SOMEONE EXPAND ON THIS?

Communist Party hails role of labor unions in Obama win: Soc:alist activist pledges 'no let down' in helping White House bring 'change we need'

The American Federation of Labor and Congress of Industrial Organizations, or AFL-CIO, sponsored a poll showing union members supported Obama by a 68-30 margin and strongly influenced their family members.

"union gun-owners backed Obama by 12 points"

"In the general population, Obama lost these groups by significant margins."

My union, the Seafarers Internation Union is affiliated with the AFL-CIO.

The NRA should target unions.

Posted by: Don Hamrick at November 13, 2008 09:19 PM

Oops! The source for the above:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=80925

Posted by: Don Hamrick at November 13, 2008 09:20 PM

The only way this would matter is if they're planning on a major gun control bill. They don't want critics to ask "rules for us but not for you?"

Posted by: Q at November 13, 2008 10:04 PM

Maybe they are planning on a major gun control bill on "rules for us but not for them!"

(DrudgeReport) NY POST Reports Obama is confirmed by NBC News' Andrea Mitchell, to be considering Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State. This appointment will incourage the United Nations gun control agenda and will definitely mean State Department opposition to my human rights complaint against the United States for the Second Amendment at the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights. This is all the more reason why the NRA should start helping me with my Second Amendment cases.

Is Obama planning on ushering in a hybrid Soc:alist/Communist version of a United Soc:alist States of America?

With all the conservative type news and commentary reports on Obama at WorldNetDaily and other Internet sources I wonder whether we are seeing the birth of a new Hitler/Nazi type of fascist/totalitarian government before our very eyes?

Posted by: Don Hamrick at November 13, 2008 10:55 PM

I saw an indication of a lack of knowledge of gun laws: "Has the registration ever lapsed?"

In Massachusetts, there's no expiration or lapse of a gun registration. The owner's carry permit can expire, but once the gun registration form is filled out it's good forever. Result? In theory, I could let my carry permit expire and technically not be in legal possession, but also technically the answer to their question would still be "no."

Posted by: Rick at November 14, 2008 06:32 AM

> I saw an indication of a lack of knowledge of gun laws: "Has the registration ever lapsed?"

Chicago registration can lapse. That's been a problem for an alderman, who pushed a change to the law to get him out of trouble.

The ignorance is in "If so, provide complete ownership and registration information."

Some jurisdictions don't have registration. (Some, such as CA, don't legally have it and others don't actually have it.)

Posted by: Andy Freeman at November 14, 2008 07:52 AM

The funny part is, most of those who will fill this form out (Obamunists) may have ever owned a firearm. As an NRA Certified Instructor, hunter, shooter, and collector, my question would be: can I use the back page if I need more room?

Posted by: realspark21 at November 14, 2008 08:26 AM

I am waiting for someone to answer: "Yes, my gun snuck out of the house one night and shot out my neighbors window."

Posted by: Richard Allen at November 14, 2008 09:17 AM

Personally I would like to see someone answer, "None of your damned business, you insufferable twit."

Posted by: straightarrow at November 15, 2008 07:55 PM

Unfortunately, most of those applying to serve under this jackass will also be insufferable twits.

Posted by: straightarrow at November 15, 2008 07:56 PM

Having this question in a "vetting" document is an indication of where the administration intends to go. They want to ban all firearms, despite "Heller." In the interim, they will definately go for a federal ban on concealed carry. Also note that the "questionnaire" asks if you are related to anyone who works for Fannie May, Freddie Mac, AIG, WaMu etc. They want to avoid anyone what has anything to do with anything they will legislate against.

By the way-- only 5 states require registration, and only NYC and a couple of surrounding counties require "re-registration" -- they are the only places registration can lapse. (You can find sources Here)

Posted by: Matt at November 16, 2008 01:32 AM

Also-- There is ONLY ONE THING that we can do to stop this--- if Obama gets the Super-Majority in the Senate, we should just PLAN on having guns taken....

SAVE SEN SAXBY CHAMBLIS- Contribute at Http://www.saxby.org

If we loose that seat, it is all over....

Posted by: Matt at November 16, 2008 01:36 AM

Sorry Matt, I don't plan on having them taken. I plan on keeping them. No matter what it takes. No MATTER!

Posted by: straightarrow at November 18, 2008 04:24 PM

I'm with you Straightarrow. Not happening.

Posted by: Mike at November 18, 2008 05:07 PM

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